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Aᴅᴀᴍ Pᴀʀʀɪsʜ ([personal profile] unknowable) wrote2015-09-30 09:40 pm

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[personal profile] lifetothefullest 2017-08-12 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
[He understands well enough what Adam means by 'it's over' and is glad to hear that at least he's out of the situation. It's definitely more complicated than just that part of things, but being out of danger is the first step towards being able to start what can be a lengthy--or even life-long--recovery process.

For Lance, it's been over twenty years now, and some days are still better than others. Here, especially, it's been more difficult than usual, for several varied and complicated reasons.]


Thank you.

[Interestingly enough, he feels almost the opposite as Adam does about himself during the event; the version of him that had existed in that alternate reality was still very close to being him, but... Less, in a way. The core of his personality was the same, but it was almost like that's all there was; it's as if the edges were dulled, with both the good and the bad extremes more mild and tempered. He was less distrusting, less hard on himself about anything and everything, but also less motivated and less determinedly compassionate.]

Not exactly, but I didn't feel completely the same either. Some important things I learned and decisions that I made because of what happened were gone.

[The path he'd chosen--becoming a psychologist, and then later an FBI agent--were heavily influenced by his desire to use what had happened to him for something good.]

Did you?

[He presumes so, or Adam probably wouldn't be asking in the way he is.]
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[personal profile] lifetothefullest 2017-08-14 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
[Lance does know what Adam means in general, and can guess--although doesn't know for sure--that many of the specific things that were different for Adam were the same things different for him. It's not as though there's a universal reaction to going through the experiences they have, but some are more common than others and considering the similarities in their personalities both during the event and from what he knows of Adam normally, it isn't difficult to come to the conclusion that the ways they were--and are--affected might be mostly the same.

On the motivation thing he can definitely understand and hadn't wanted to bring it up himself out of fear of it being taken the wrong way, but now that Adam has it seems alright to agree.]


I do, yes. I think our situations were different in a lot of ways by that point, but overall it's the same for me; in that version of things, I only had one degree at twenty-nine, and in reality I had four at twenty-one.

[He'd been out of danger much earlier in his life than he gets the impression Adam was, but it hadn't been quite possible for him to believe that was the case for a long time. Even when he'd finally begun to be convinced that his adoptive parents loved and wanted him, he'd still felt the desperate need to prove they hadn't made--and weren't making--a terrible mistake.

He'd been a difficult child and even worse preteen, and his parents had been much older than most and with health problems; dealing with him was surely a nightmare, and although he knows now that that's to be expected and very normal for a child who'd been through what he had, at the time he'd been certain it was only a matter of time before even people as kind as they were became tired of him. Excelling in school and leaving home early served the dual purpose of proving he was worth something, and also removing the need for his parents to deal with him being in their house and all the stress that went along with that.

So it wasn't exactly the same type of pressing motivation Adam had to escape his situation, but it was still a matter of survival to Lance, just in a different way. But not only was that reasoning gone in the event, but he'd chosen an academic way of approaching his field as opposed to the practical and very involved one he'd followed in real life.

There's a short delay before he continues with the rest of his message, because although he thinks he's reading the right information out of Adam's wording he doesn't want to assume, and this piece of things is pretty important.]


You don't have to answer, but I got the impression from what you said that your situation ended only recently. Is that correct?

[He doesn't typically ask these types of question through text, but he's not a therapist right now; he and Adam are on equal footing here on this, and so the rules are somewhat different. It's also easier for Lance to talk about this when it's just words on a screen, and thinks it might be for Adam too.]
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[personal profile] lifetothefullest 2017-08-20 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
[Lance has spoken about it more, probably, than Adam has, although the vast majority of that was during counseling through his childhood years. As a teenager, and especially as an adult, he almost never says anything; it's partially because he doesn't want people knowing, but also partially because it's just too difficult. Even with his friends who are aware of what happened, he's never actually spoken with them about it beyond vague allusions.

But Adam is right in that he isn't asking for details, not just because it would be incredibly insensitive but because Lance doesn't think he could handle hearing much of them. There are several reasons he chose not to work with children, or even teenagers, and this is one of them; he can't be objective or helpful in a professional capacity when he isn't capable of keeping the required distance from the subject.

What little Adam does tell him is difficult enough to hear, although not just due to his own experiences.]


I'm sorry. I can't imagine.

[He'd never been in a particularly good foster home, but the one that had been the very worst had only lasted eighteen months and that had still been enough to scar him for life, both mentally and physically. Although he doesn't know for sure--and won't ask--exactly when things started for Adam, he has the impression from everything so far that it's probably been a long time.]

Yes, it is always a mess. At least in every case I know of.

[He feels it's important to make sure Adam knows that's the case; nothing about this, no matter how different the situations or details, is ever simple or clear.

After that, Lance hesitates, not sure exactly what more to say; part of him feels like he should offer his own answer to the question he asked of Adam, just to be fair, but the rest of him balks at saying even that much. There's something a lot more important that he should probably make clear, anyway.]


And although I can't offer professional help in this situation, if you ever want to talk or are just having one of the more difficult days and need a reminder that you're not alone, you can always message me.

[Because feeling alone is all too common, especially when you've gone through something that none of your friends understand or, alternatively, understand but can't bring themselves to talk about either.]
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[personal profile] lifetothefullest 2017-09-01 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
[Likewise, Lance understands it probably takes a lot for Adam to make the same offer in return, and he also gets that Adam's first response is very honest; it's the same answer Lance wants to give himself. Talking, even after so much time and even to someone he knows wouldn't judge, is difficult.

And, of course, there's the matter of that even though it'd be good for them both in the long run, in the short term bringing everything back up--for themselves, and for each other--is a real concern. Giving them both a little time to think over things is probably for the best.]


It isn't stupid, and thank you. I can't say I'm sure I'll take you up on it either, but maybe in the future.

[And just knowing the option is there means a lot.

But this conversation has been a lot more mentally and emotionally exhausting than he expected, and he imagines it's the same for Adam, so this seems like a good place to leave things for now.]


I should let you get back to whatever you were doing before I interrupted you.
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[personal profile] lifetothefullest 2017-09-11 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
[He wishes he could offer to help professionally, because therapy is definitely important in this situation, but he can't; not only has he told Adam too much about his own experiences for it to be ethical to provide counseling, but Lance is also aware of his own limitations. He knows he wouldn't be capable of being objective, and even more than that he doesn't think he'd be able to handle the subject in general, let alone do so with the required level of professional distance.

But even though that isn't an option, there are other ways to help, and hopefully that'll be possible at some point in the future. Right now, though, he's glad Adam seems to understand the need to bow out of the conversation.]


I'll talk to you later then, and let me know if you need anything, alright?

[Related to this, or otherwise; maybe it's just holdover from the event, or because of this conversation, or both, but he feels like he should look out for Adam as much as he can.]